Reloaded-II closes instantly when launching Sonic Heroes (no error window)

[BlackSheep48599]

When I click “Start Application” for Sonic Heroes, Reloaded-II immediately closes without any error window or log message. Sonic Heroes runs fine when launched directly via Tsonic_win.exe, but not when started through Reloaded-II.

I'm running Windows 11, using Reloaded 1.30.2. Installed .NET Desktop Runtime 5.x x64 & x86 and Visual C++ Redistributable 2015–2022 x64 & x86

To Reproduce

• Install Reloaded-II from the official GitHub releases page into a new folder.
• Remove old configuration from %AppData%\Roaming\Reloaded-II / %AppData%\Local\Reloaded-II so Reloaded-II starts “fresh”
• Start Reloaded-II.
• Add Sonic Heroes as an application, pointing to Tsonic_win.exe.
• Make sure there are no mods enabled for Sonic Heroes (fresh setup).
• Click “Start Application”.

Expected Behaviour
Sonic Heroes should start and show a window, or at least show an error popup if something fails.

Actual behavior
Reloaded-II closes instantly.
No error popup appears, no “Stuck in Download Loop” window, nothing.
Sonic Heroes does not start.

Things I already tried
Verified Sonic Heroes works when run directly via Tsonic_win.exe (without Reloaded-II).
Completely deleted the old Reloaded-II Release folder and AppData config, then reinstalled the latest release.
Reinstalled .NET Desktop Runtime (x86 and x64) and Visual C++ 2015–2022 Redistributables (x86 and x64), then rebooted.
Previously had a “Stuck in dependency download loop” for Reloaded.Memory.SigScan.ReloadedII and reloaded.sharedlib.csharp.prs, but even with a fresh install and without mods, Reloaded-II still closes instantly on launch.

Extra info
If you tell me how to enable logging or where to find crash logs for Reloaded-II, I can attach those as well

[Sewer56]

Reloaded crashes when you try to start the game? Or when you try launching it?

In any case, if it's the latter, try screenshotting the game folder.

[BlackSheep48599]

Thanks for your quick reply! It's when I try to click the "launch application" button inside Reloaded. Nothing happens but the closing of the Reloaded menu window.

[Sewer56]

Weird. All clean.
Try Edit Application -> Deploy ASI Loader if you can.

You might also want to enable Graphics Essentials mod or disable DEP, on some modern Windows systems, game might not run without that.

[BlackSheep48599]

Done. I've installed the graphics essentals mod and disabled DEP. Restarted the PC and tried again. Same as before. Closes without a game or error message

[BlackSheep48599]

I'm trying to get Sonic Heroes to run using Reloaded. I admit, I'm new to this. I've tried to follow both these tutorials to the teeth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJU4Z5goaIw&t=452s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_GSHFhzLQ

Yet, I always end up with the same problem. When I click "launch application" I get a short loading time, followed by reloaded closing itself and nothing happening. Even when I'm just trying to launch the vanilla game (no mods) from reloaded. (Launching the Tsonic_win.exe from my folder directly works perfectly fine).

Is anyone running into similar issues? I have no idea what I'm doing. I have no Idea what I'm doing wrong..
Is there perhaps a better tutorial somewhere?

Some things I think might have something to do with the issue:

1. Everytime I open Reloaded - II it asks me to download the same 4 programs. (see screenshot 1). Isn't this supposed to be a 'download once' type thing?
2. Over my many times redownloading Reloaded - II (even older builds) After trying to launch, trying to add mods, like the suggested graphics essentials, I always end up with 'Shared Lib' mods and 'Memery.Sigscan' I don't know how they keep getting in there. (see screenshot 2).

My goal is to run the game from Reloaded - II, Enhance the graphics a bit and change the buttons (using my laptops keyboard). If anyone recognises these problems and knows what to do, please let me know! Like I said, I'm new to this, but would love to learn how to work these things..

[BlackSheep48599]

Update:

I've gotten further, I think. The game still won't launch, but I think I've found pretty much everyting I need to theoretically upgrade the game on the graphics side. I'll include some screenshots as an overview.

I think the order the mods are in matters, but I haven't found a way to know for sure. Now, I'm just trying to cycle through all possbile orders, hoping to strike the lucky one that will actually launch the game.

Sidenote: somehow sonicriders.exe shows up, eventhough I don't own that game..

Thanks @Sewer56. Your ideas to disable DEP, deploy ASI loader and add the SH Essentials: Graphics probably all helped. I've noticed you've created most of these mods, including Reloaded itself. Truely incredible stuff.

If you, or someone knows why the game wont launch for me, any suggestions are welcome. I'm happy to try anything ^- ^ So far, I haven't found that magic touch..

[Sewer56]

@BlackSheep48599 Sorry for the delay. My health hasn't been great past month.
Do you run BitDefender by any chance:

• http://github.com/Reloaded-Project/Reloaded-II/issues/686#issuecomment-3244875164

Maybe this could help if you happen to.

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Everything looks correct at first glance.

[BlackSheep48599]

No worries! Please, always put your own health first! I already appreciate you bigtime helping me with this project.

No, no BitDefender. I'm running windows 11 and HP Wolf security. I tried to do something similar, but Wolf didn't flag Reloaded as scary software. I have excluded the folder containing all the files (game and reloaded) from my virus scanning. I'm really stuck now. I feel like I've tried everyting, but I must be missing something obvious. Any chance I don't have all the correct runtime x86 x64 microsoft requirements intalled? (screenshot). (Reloaded still requires me te download and install (I take it it installs it automatically?) everytime I open Reloaded, eventhought I must have done that close to 100x by now..)

What else can cause Reloaded to not launch a game, even without any mods ticked on as active?

Thanks again for your help @Sewer56 , reply whenever you see fit. Get well soon and best wishes!

[Sewer56]

I'm actually curious- do you not see anything pop up?
Or does a log/console window briefly appear then disappear?

It's really strange, because everything really does appear to be correct.

You can try taking a crash dump:

• Help: Please help me with Fatal error on modded launch #757 (comment)

Maybe that'll give more info away, it's a very strange case.

[BlackSheep48599]

Nothing pops up. It goes like this:
I click Launch application -> a loading wheel appears next to the mouse -> Reloaded closes... That's it..
Anyway, I'll attach the DMP-file below. I personally have know idea how to make sense of this..

File to big to upload directly, so it's available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KrRUFKsF3FMg16LXWH1sBmrd4LieNCl3/view?usp=sharing

[Sewer56]

@BlackSheep48599 Oh, that's a dump of Reloaded itself crashing. Is there one for the game crashing? Presumably if you start the game via its EXE after installing ASI Loader, you'd get one.