Gateway Bosses of Massdestruction are almost invincible.

[BlubbPaule]

Describe your suggestion

There is no clear guidance in the modpack how you circumvent the absolut crazy amounts of HP and armor those Gateway bosses have. Some are even so bad (Like the the nether gauntlet) that no matter your preperation it's an immediate loss without your fault.

I personally tried everything to defeat the bosses, but their insane armor, toughness and sometimes movement makes them unkillable if you're not using ONE specific item - the quantum sword.

Legends have it that aerial collapse is working as well, but this means everyone is funneled into the same cheese to play the endgame which i don't think should be the intention.

Why would you like this added/changed?

If there are non cheese, non quantum sword ways of defeating these bosses the path to reach said amounts of penetration or damage is not clear and a major roadblock that made my entire server quit playing.

Either fix them being absolutely broken, or add guidance as to how to reach a power to kill those bosses.

[Ciereez]

aerial collapse shouldnt? work on it due to aerial collapse being intended to not work on bosses,

there is a non cheese non quantum sword way to kill gateway bosses, actually depending on your definition of cheese there are multiple ways

i think you may have to do some more experimenting with numbers and mods, but I will add this to the counter of "I need to write a damage guide", which I think is at like 15 now lol

I will say that the method for damage stacking enough damage is very obscure, but that it is also a kitchen sink pack, which means there is a level of "figuring it out"

Im down to give you hints if you want? but there definitely is a non quantum sword way of defeating the boss, (actually quantum sword is arguably not good for damage because it hard caps your damage to 2.14 bil, when you probably could push for higher, but its impractical so)

[BlubbPaule]

yes please hints.

Tried stacking armor shred but didn't work either. max hp dmg only worked against the goat boss.

[Ciereez]

iirc (idk if this is still in the game), but i recommend you try a critical damage build,

this build works off some following information to get you started

1. crit damage scales very well
2. you can off hand a bow and still have it apply combat stats
3. crits work on irons spells and spellbooks spells (this is the key step, and is intentionally left more obscure)
4. there is a specific reliquified twilights forest relic that boosts your combat stats that is very strong
5. falling hits (vanilla crits) (should still) allow you to double (apoth) crit

[BlubbPaule]

I guess one issue is that i went straight for Irons spells only. So only irons spells spells, only irons spells armor and such.

[Ciereez]

another cool thing about irons spells is that most damage spells will add the stats (at least core stats such as attack damage, crit damage, etc) to the spell damage

[BlubbPaule]

What is the relic from the twilight forest you mean? I have all relics from the quest page and am unsure which one it is that you mean.

[Leonxilofin]

Gonna assume he's talking about the Giant's Glove