[Bug]:

[sinankizar]

Hello and thank you for this great app.. I am exploring options for menubar management. I am a mega supporter for another contender but it's development is going slow. Other contender I have is in hellish trial by me :D And i have just found out SaneBar.. But i have a little issue: The menu items are always stays visible

latest build (2.1.90)
os: Golden Gate preview 4
bug: hidden icons always stays visible

Issue Description

Menu bar health report

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Environment

Property	Value
App Version	2.1.90 (2190)
OS	macOS 27.0.0
Device	Mac16,7 (Apple Silicon)
Collected	2026-08-23T10:05:14Z

Recent Logs (last 5 minutes)

[11:18:32.430] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:32.958] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:33.474] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:33.992] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:34.503] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:35.033] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:18:35.033] [ERROR] Status item validation stopped after 6 checks for active-space-changed without autosave recovery
[11:18:35.033] [ERROR] Status item recovery stopped after 0 attempt(s) for position-validation-active-space-changed; last reason=invalid-status-items
[11:21:23.863] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:24.372] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:24.896] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:25.419] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:25.922] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:26.433] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:21:26.433] [ERROR] Status item validation stopped after 6 checks for active-space-changed without autosave recovery
[11:21:26.433] [ERROR] Status item recovery stopped after 0 attempt(s) for position-validation-active-space-changed; last reason=invalid-status-items
[11:35:21.176] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:21.693] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:23.762] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:24.268] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:24.776] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:25.297] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:25.804] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:26.314] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:26.314] [ERROR] Status item validation stopped after 6 checks for active-space-changed without autosave recovery
[11:35:26.314] [ERROR] Status item recovery stopped after 0 attempt(s) for position-validation-active-space-changed; last reason=invalid-status-items
[11:35:48.747] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:49.278] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:51.918] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:52.424] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:52.928] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:53.461] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:53.992] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:54.525] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:35:54.525] [ERROR] Status item validation stopped after 6 checks for active-space-changed without autosave recovery
[11:35:54.525] [ERROR] Status item recovery stopped after 0 attempt(s) for position-validation-active-space-changed; last reason=invalid-status-items
[11:36:58.968] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:36:59.484] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:00.002] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:00.511] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:01.035] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:01.569] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:01.569] [ERROR] Status item validation stopped after 6 checks for active-space-changed without autosave recovery
[11:37:01.569] [ERROR] Status item recovery stopped after 0 attempt(s) for position-validation-active-space-changed; last reason=invalid-status-items
[11:37:18.112] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:18.626] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:19.128] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:19.635] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:20.163] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid
[11:37:20.675] [ERROR] Status item validation: status-item windows are invalid

Settings Summary

hidingState: hidden
isAnimating: false
delimiterConfigured: true
delimiterLength: 10000.00
isMenuOpen: false
isRevealPinned: false
shouldSkipHideForExternalMonitor: false
hasNotch: true
isOnExternalMonitor: false
accessibilityGranted: true

separatorOriginX: 1476.00
alwaysHiddenSeparatorOriginX: 1277.00
mainIconLeftEdgeX: 1496.00

mainStatusItemVisible: true
statusMenuItemCount: 15

statusItemForensics:
  startupItemsValid: false
  mainWindowValid: true
  separatorWindowValid: false
  hiddenCollapsedSeparatorHealthy: false
  systemMenuBarSuppressionHint: possible macOS menu bar suppression: check System Settings > Menu Bar > Allow in Menu Bar for SaneBar
  visibilityOverrideCount: 0
  visibilityOverrides: none
  missionControlDisplaysHaveSeparateSpaces: unknown
  missionControlSpansDisplaysRaw: unknown
  missionControlSummary: unknown

mainButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.main
  action: statusItemClicked:
  hasTarget: true
  windowFrame: x=1496.0 y=1084.0 w=20.0 h=33.0
  screen: Built-in Retina Display

separatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.separator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=1350.0 y=1084.0 w=5004.0 h=33.0

alwaysHiddenSeparatorButton:
  identifier: SaneBar.alwaysHiddenSeparator
  action: nil
  hasTarget: false
  windowFrame: x=1277.0 y=1084.0 w=18.0 h=33.0

prefsForensics:
  bundleIdentifier: com.sanebar.app
  autosaveVersion: 8
  currentScreenWidth: 1728.00
  currentScreenCount: 1
  statusItemScreen: Built-in Retina Display
  statusItemScreenWidth: 1728.00
  pointerScreen: Built-in Retina Display
  pointerScreenWidth: 1728.00
  calibratedScreenWidth: 1728.00
  currentWidthBucket: 1728
  storedWidthBucket: 1728
  legacyAlwaysHiddenSeparator: nil
  displayBackupCurrentMain: 180
  displayBackupCurrentSeparator: 340
  displayBackupStoredMain: 180
  displayBackupStoredSeparator: 340

nsStatusItemPreferredPositions:
  main: 180
  separator: 340
  alwaysHiddenSeparator: 591.5

settings:
  autoRehide: true
  rehideDelay: 5.0s
  findIconRehideDelay: 15.0s
  showOnHover: false
  showOnScroll: false
  showOnClick: false
  hideApplicationMenusOnInlineReveal: true
  showOnUserDrag: true
  showOnLowBattery: false
  showOnAppLaunch: false
  showOnNetworkChange: false
  rehideOnAppChange: false
  requireAuthToShowHiddenIcons: false
  showDockIcon: false
  hideMainIcon: false
  dividerStyle: pipeThin
  menuBarSpacing: 5
  iconGroups: 0
  iconHotkeys: 0
  disableOnExternalMonitor: false
  useSecondMenuBar: false
  hideAllOtherMenuBarItems: false
  hideAllOtherVisibleItemCount: 0
  alwaysHiddenSectionEnabled: true
  alwaysHiddenPinnedItemCount: 0

diagnostics:
    accessibility:
      granted: true
      ownersCacheCount: 0
      ownersCacheAge: stale
      itemsCacheCount: 12
      itemsCacheAge: stale
      ownersRefreshInFlight: false
      itemsRefreshInFlight: false
      cacheWarmupInFlight: true
      cacheWarmupSuppressionDepth: 0
      deferredCacheWarmupReason: none
      knownOwnerRefreshAttempts: 16
      knownOwnerRefreshAccepted: 14
      knownOwnerRefreshFullFallbacks: 0
      knownOwnerRefreshLastOutcome: accepted.initial
      knownOwnerRefreshLastSeededItems: 12
      knownOwnerRefreshLastSeededOwners: 8
      knownOwnerRefreshLastFirstResult: 12
      knownOwnerRefreshLastFirstCoverage: 1.00
      knownOwnerRefreshLastRetryOwners: 0
      knownOwnerRefreshLastRetryResult: 0
      knownOwnerRefreshLastRetryCoverage: 0.00
      bundlesWithoutExtrasMenuBarCount: 0
      bundlesWithoutExtrasMenuBar: none
    lastActivation:
      startedAt: 2026-08-23T09:59:54.734
      requestedApp: id=com.apple.MenuBarAgent::statusItem:0 bundle=com.apple.MenuBarAgent menuExtra=nil statusItemIndex=0 x=1629.0 width=26.0
      origin: browsePanel
      didReveal: true
      preferHardwareFirst: true
      initialResolution: forceRefresh=true items=12 method=uniqueId
      initialTarget: id=com.apple.MenuBarAgent::statusItem:0 bundle=com.apple.MenuBarAgent menuExtra=nil statusItemIndex=0 x=1629.0 width=26.0
      waitOutcome: skipped (preferHardwareFirst)
      firstAttempt: success=false accepted=false timedOut=true durationMs=2590 fallbackCenter=x=1642.0 y=15.0 allowImmediateFallbackCenter=true requireObservableReaction=true verification=failed (timed out)
      retryAttempt: skipped (first attempt timed out)
      finalOutcome: click failed (kept browse panel active)
    secondMenuBar:
      showRequestedAt: 2026-08-23T09:59:41.257
      currentMode: findIcon
      windowVisible: false
      windowFrame: x=654.0 y=511.0 w=420.0 h=552.0
      refreshForced: false
      visibleCount: 0
      hiddenCount: 0
      alwaysHiddenCount: 0
      relayoutPassCount: 0
      lastRelayoutAt: 2026-08-23T10:00:24.327
      lastRelayoutReason: windowWillClose

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Submitted via SaneBar's in-app feedback

[github-actions]

Good news and bad news — and I'll give you the good news first.

Everything I'm about to say affects SaneBar only. None of the other SaneApps have been impacted by Apple's changes — they all work great, they are actively maintained, and they will keep working. You can see the whole family at saneapps.com.

Now the bad news. SaneBar — and every other menu bar manager on the Mac — has been rug-pulled by Apple. This is not a SaneBar bug we were too lazy to fix. It is a platform problem, and it is hitting the whole category on two fronts at once.

1. The current version of macOS is already broken for menu bar managers. The OS itself fights apps like this — it flips a menu bar item's visibility in a loop and rewrites menu bar order out from under the app — and there is no public API to control status items, so every app in this category is stuck with the same toolkit. That is why some issues — very possibly the one you just filed — cannot be fixed at the app level today, on current macOS. Apple has acknowledged pieces of it in Feedback FB9052637 (toggling item visibility destroys the saved position) and FB8732253 (macOS stopped preserving menu bar order).

This is not unique to us — the identical bugs are open in other menu bar apps right now:

• Ice (open source): menu bar items move to hidden on their own, always-hidden icons disappear
• BetterDisplay: on macOS 26.4.1 the system drives an NSStatusItem visibility loop so the icon never appears

2. The next version of macOS makes it total. macOS 27 "Golden Gate" rebuilds how the menu bar works and is already breaking every menu bar manager in the beta — right-click menus stop responding, and dragging an icon now triggers Mission Control instead of moving it. Straight from Apple:

• Apple engineer + developer reports — an Apple framework engineer states plainly: "Local event monitors are no longer the recommended way of scanning for events on status items."
• macOS 27 release notes
• The broader AppKit discussion

So this was never for lack of trying. Apple moved the ground out from under the entire category — already, on today's macOS, and completely on the next one.

SaneBar is not dead in spirit, though. As of the sunset it is completely free and open source (MIT), community-maintained, every feature unlocked. I am no longer triaging issues, but the door is wide open:

• Fork the repo and fix what you need for your own setup
• If you have found a solution, open a pull request — PRs still get reviewed and merged by real people
• Read the full sunset write-up for the whole story and references

Closing this out, but the code stays open. Thank you for caring enough to file it.

Mr. Sane